P and F

[maanantonio]

I am having difficulty with my P and F when speaking, how do i correct this?
:victory: and thank you for this forum
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[cmo]

I am having difficulty with my P and F when speaking, how do i correct this?
:victory: and thank you for this forum
:wave::wave:

Could you list down here some words that you make the sounds P and F mixed up?

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[ctivnan]

Hi!

It's good that you are aware of this difficulty! That's already a good start! :happy0141: Filipinos often have this difficulty because the sound system in Tagalog did not use to have a distinct /p/ and /f/ sound. You can either say Filipino or Pilipino and there's no difference in meaning, right?

Now you can improve by yourself or with someone.

If you are doing this alone, it is good to have a voice/video recorder with you, so you can hear yourself and see how you are producing the sounds. If not, then having someone observe you is important.

First, go to a mirror and look at how you produce the sounds /p/ and /f/. You'll notice that your lips are closed and as you produce the sound, there's an explosion of air with /p/ and for /f/, your upper teeth bite your lower lip and there is no explosion of air.

Next, practice with one-syllable words (do this in front of the mirror and observe your mouth).
Example
/p/ ------- /f/
pat ------- fat
pit -------- fit
pack ------ fact
nap -------- naff
op --------- off

Practice with the /p/ column, then /f/, and contrast /p/ and /f/.

You can do this many times with different words. I suggest that you practice twice a day everyday. You can start with one-syllable words, then with two. It will also be great to do some tongue twisters focused on the /p/ and /f/ sound. Finally, you can read aloud some articles, so you can hear yourself (or another person can hear you) and assess how you are doing. Remember, you must record. It will help you a lot in assessing how you are improving.

Hope it helps. :happy0088:

[neyx]

just keep practicing familiar words daily at least 50 words starting with letter f

family forget future false feeling far for feet fish etc...

it is like teaching a child, we all have to get back to the basics sometimes

i remember when i was 5yrs old i said to my mom, "ma, i like pish" she told me to keep repeating the word starting 'efff' so i went saying 'eff, efff, efffff, fffish'. the key is familiarizing your yourself to the word. if ever you you hear yourself saying pamily correct yourself right away and say family.

it's very easy just keep practicing :)

besides even those who are good in English unconsciously make those kind of mistakes too...

[cmo]

Here I'm trying to post sounds:

Fact (http://english-coffee.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=189&stc=1&d=1206026116)
Family (http://english-coffee.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=190&stc=1&d=1206026116)
Feeling (http://english-coffee.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=191&stc=1&d=1206026881)
Fish (http://english-coffee.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=192&stc=1&d=1206026881)

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Note: You may need to save in your computer before being able to listen to the audio.

[iamaspeaker]

There are times that I am having a hard time translating my thoughts in English. It comes out as Filipinism. As in translating it literally. And it sounds strange to others. Especially for foreigners if they hear you. What is the best way to get over this? I'm working in a call center and sometimes it happens when you're trying to explain something to the caller.

[Zahir]

There are times that I am having a hard time translating my thoughts in English. It comes out as Filipinism. As in translating it literally. And it sounds strange to others. Especially for foreigners if they hear you. What is the best way to get over this? I'm working in a call center and sometimes it happens when you're trying to explain something to the caller.

I think translating literally can be a hindrance for you since it will take time and you will end up with an anglicized tagalog. I think that you ought to practice explaining something just in English and avoid translating.
I sometimes catch myself starting my explanation in English and losing my trail of thought in the middle, so I panic and end up looking for words or translations. It just doesn't work. I end up sounding really strange.

[patis]

someone taught me the read an english newspaper out loud for thirty minutes while practicing the three-second rule. the three second rule says that you have to pronounce all the f's and th's and v's properly for three seconds. for example, you'd read this sentence as:

ffforrrgivvve me fffathththerrr, ffforrr i havvve sinned.

hope this would help.

[cleverlane]

Hello!!! I have another view that might help you. I used to have this VERY crooked set of teeth. I have to wear braces for alignment and of course not to mention the aesthetic factor. The dentist said that having the p and f difficulty sometimes has something to do with your set of teeth. The flowing air in and out of your mouth as you say words is affected by the position of your teeth. How? That I don't know. But I'm telling you after braces my p anf f words improved.