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q_sharon
12/13/07, 10:55 PM
:holler: the difference between these two statements:

The officials of the Greenwich Observatory have the clock checked.
The officials of the Greenwich Observatory have checked the clock.

anyone?...
ArcadeMaster
12/13/07, 11:03 PM
:holler: the difference between these two statements:

The officials of the Greenwich Observatory have the clock checked.
The officials of the Greenwich Observatory have checked the clock.

anyone?...

I'm thinking... can't tell now coz I am mastering Pacman, he he he.


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lasher
12/14/07, 06:45 AM
:holler: the difference between these two statements:

The officials of the Greenwich Observatory have the clock checked.
The officials of the Greenwich Observatory have checked the clock.

anyone?...

I believe the difference is in the placement of your verb checked.

When you say "The officials of the Greenwich Observatory have the clock checked." It makes it sound like the officials of the Greenwich Observatory bring people in to check the clock.

When "The officials of the Greenwich Observatory have checked the clock." This is sounding like a statement in which the officials of the Greenwich Observatory did, in fact, check the clock.
juan
12/14/07, 02:22 PM
I believe the difference is in the placement of your verb checked.

When you say "The officials of the Greenwich Observatory have the clock checked." It makes it sound like the officials of the Greenwich Observatory bring people in to check the clock.

When "The officials of the Greenwich Observatory have checked the clock." This is sounding like a statement in which the officials of the Greenwich Observatory did, in fact, check the clock.

Lasher, I'm in the same opinion.
q_sharon
12/14/07, 07:20 PM
wow! great , fellow coffeers !:cheers:
to simplify but emphasize the grammatical meaning:
the first sentence is causative passive:

The officials of the Greenwich Observatory have the clock checked. (by technicians)

compare:
The officials of the Greenwich Observatory have technicians check the clock.
(causative active)

while the second sentence is in the present perfect.

The officials of the Greenwich Observatory have checked the clock.