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cmo
01/04/08, 02:20 AM
I'm sorry but there's so much information about issues that is interesting for us to digest and make an opinion out of it!

Here is an example of comments from www.gov.ph forum.

Why Most Companies Prefer Grads of UP, Ateneo, De La Salle and UST?

"I graduated from a reputable university. Well, not from the Big 4 mentioned above.
There are some job ads in the newspaper where companies enumerate their school o prefences. This is Unfair!" - juanantonio
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"I symphatize with those who are graduates of universities and colleges other than the 3 mentioned. I'm a La Salle graduate myself, but I agree that it's unfair to hire people on the basis of what school they studied. It still depends on the individual skill and merit of a person that should be taken into prime consideration." - Mike D.
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"UP is not about learning in the classroom. It is about learning outside the classroom.

UP students are the way they are not because they are diligent, smart, skilled, or intelligent students, it is not because they have brilliant teachers or PhD level professors. You'll be surprised to learn that most students in UP complain about the quality of teaching in some colleges or the quality of materials being taught. You'll be surprised to learn that some students may have gone through college without religiously attending classes.

UP students stand out (as well as Ateneo and the rest) because they learn outside their classrooms. They join organizations. They participate in activities.

The culture in UP breeds interaction. That is the key! UP graduates are confident when they walk out of the university because they know that they have already met all kinds of people in the university. UP students are confident in communicating with people outside the university because they have already trained themselves to be confident while they were inside the university.

So again ... why do companies prefer graduates from UP and the rest? I sincerely believe that that is because UP students have been trained by their off-classroom lives to deal with people. And in the real world, dealing with people is key to survival." - activist
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"No one can really blame these companies if they want to hire people who graduated from UP and Ateneo. If you are in their shoes, I'm sure you would also want to hire the creme of the crop to maintain or improve the standard of your company.

And take note that the people who graduated from these 2 schools are trully creme of the crop. They were chosen from the thousands of people who took the admission exams..

But take note that even if you are not from these companies, you can show the employers how good you are ..." - jovs_98
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Any other comment about it? :enraged:

ctivnan
01/04/08, 09:16 AM
I must agree that it is UNFAIR to get ONLY those from the 4 universities, but this is a PREFERENCE.

I am sure that if you prove to be diligent and skilled in whatever position you're applying to, where you got your education won't matter because YOU MAKE YOURSELF MATTER MUCH MORE!!!

akosijoshua
03/05/08, 02:40 AM
I'm from UST but not all Thomasian graduates are created equal anyway? A diploma could only get you so far and if you don't strive for excellence, sadly, you'll just dissolve with the rest of the crowd.

In my previous company, my trainer was also a Thomasian graduate with a Literature major. She had this habit of repetitively using "OK, alright, alrightie" in every sentence she utters (I kept a tally sheet and counted 40 OKs and 20 alrighties in just 20 minutes and I had to endure this for eight hours daily for two weeks).

It is really how you carry yourself. Don't be intimidated.

bittersweetenn
03/05/08, 02:59 AM
It is really how you carry yourself. Don't be intimidated.:thatsit:

yeah right... i am not a graduate of any of the three universities mentioned...but i am confident... because i know what i can and what i am not capable to do...:emoticon-7:

but yeah, how i wish i had enough money to enroll in those prestigious universities...
anyways, I'm still grateful to my alma matter... :halo:

aiepro
03/05/08, 02:31 PM
It shows how backward our country is. It's amazing that companies that perpetuate this kind of attitude and mentality are still alive. Most advanced nations will not accept this kind of "caveman" like way of hiring. I can still see ads like must be 5'2", must be female, must be Christian, must have pleasing personality (duh!), must be this, must be that...Whatever happened to skills?

ctivnan
03/06/08, 06:47 AM
It shows how backward our country is. It's amazing that companies that perpetuate this kind of attitude and mentality are still alive. Most advanced nations will not accept this kind of "caveman" like way of hiring. I can still see ads like must be 5'2", must be female, must be Christian, must have pleasing personality (duh!), must be this, must be that...Whatever happened to skills?

I agree! There should be Equal Opportunity to everyone who has the appropriate skills needed!

We studied this one in management years ago, but I guess, it hasn't reached some Human Resources' offices.

akosijoshua
03/07/08, 12:47 PM
I agree! There should be Equal Opportunity to everyone who has the appropriate skills needed!

We studied this one in management years ago, but I guess, it hasn't reached some Human Resources' offices.

Setting aside my earlier argument, I still believe that there is still a significant difference in quality of instruction and training received across institutions. However, it is really up to the individual whether or not he can maximize such opportunities in order to meet certain "expectations" for carrying the credentials.

I too get disappointed with my schoolmates who settle for mediocrity.

Looking from the HR perspective, I'd rather hire somebody who has hurdled the strictest standards (easily trainable, knowledgeable, less time for training, can be productive).

ajarn_alfred
03/07/08, 01:23 PM
I am not surprised with this issue. Napakatagal nang issue ito. Maliit pa akong bata ay lagi ko nang naririnig na mas madaling makakuha ng trabaho kapag UP, UST, ATENEO, De La Salle graduate ka. GANYAN TALAGA ANG LABANAN SA PAGHAHANAP NANG TRABAHO SA PINAS, BUT IT IS UNFAIR.

trailblazerstravelntours
03/07/08, 01:46 PM
:c_o_o_l:I agree! Skills should be the basis. Some countries, like many companies in the U.S., don't even require a photo in resumes and gender is not an issue. But this kind of hiring preferences we have in the Philippines is a reality. We have to get real. This is competition. :flex: Sensible companies/corporations will only hire the best. They may hire according to their initial assessment - checking the resumes and finding out where you graduated. But that's not the end of it. Many newly-hired graduates from these 4 universities do not perform well or may seek better-paying jobs abroad.
The key is to make oneself desirable to the companies/corporation. There are countless ways to do this. One is by submitting a very good resume (error-free, skills-based, and professional in style). Then, if the applicant gets to the interview stage, s/he must prepare for the interview (researching about the the company, the position being applied for and the like). And, if hired, one must deliver! I think everyone knows these things already. The thing is, not everyone has the will to do what needs to be done in order to get what one really wants. :Cat Smiley 6117:

angelkrizz
03/07/08, 02:18 PM
They should consider the EQ, IQ and skills of an applicant. They should not only hire from these top universities. Well, there are also good applicants coming from not so well-known universities. They only have the brain but some of them have no money to go to DLSU or UST. We say that UP is also for those brainees who don't have money but not all can enter UP. How about those from the South?
I think they should give an equal opportunity..well, if they miss to hire someone who is good but who also happens to be a graduate of the 'rest' of the universities. It's the company's lost already...better yet..if you think you are really smart and good enough..build your own business...hehehe....:Cat Smiley 6117:

santelmo
03/08/08, 09:40 PM
I must agree that it is UNFAIR to get ONLY those from the 4 universities, but this is a PREFERENCE.

I am sure that if you prove to be diligent and skilled in whatever position you're applying to, where you got your education won't matter because YOU MAKE YOURSELF MATTER MUCH MORE!!!

YES!!! go OLGM!!! :first::bravo: lolz too bad i did not take my past education seriously. i should have listened to other people's suggestions...

*sigh* i think it's back to school for me... i need to start all over. :AIRPLANE:

pinoypower
03/19/08, 04:06 AM
The logical explanation why graduates of UP, Ateneo, La Salle and UST are preferred by most companies is because most owners and senior managers graduated from this schools and they know the quality of their graduates. The key word here is prefer and it doesn't mean that graduates of other school will not be hired. They have only the advantage at the beginning but this can be neutralised by actual performance. In the end hard work and perseverance will prevail and be appreciated by the employers.

Jason
03/19/08, 08:54 AM
I remembered my boss asking me "Did you went to college? How was it? Did you finish? NEVERMIND, LET'S SEE WHAT YOU CAN DO" he's an american, an happily almost a year has past... im still here.. earning more than those who graudated college with honors... he keeps reminding me whenever I hire people - try to focus on their need to work rather than their past achievements including graduating from school

neyx
03/19/08, 12:17 PM
I remembered my boss asking me "Did you went to college? How was it? Did you finish? NEVERMIND, LET'S SEE WHAT YOU CAN DO" he's an american, an happily almost a year has past... im still here.. earning more than those who graudated college with honors... he keeps reminding me whenever I hire people - try to focus on their need to work rather than their past achievements including graduating from school

haha nice boss you got there :D keep up the good work!

about the schools hmmmn... i believe it'll be their lost if i say im not a graduate of those school and that'll be their reason not to hire me. hahaha talking about confidence :peace: